The Good But Generally Bad Police Thread


Something a little more hopeful, for once, even if things still could have turned differently.

Cop fired for not shooting suspected wins $175,000 settlement.


This video was finally made public:

Video shows officer shooting Tongan Crip gangster in Utah courthouse:

SALT LAKE CITY - Dramatic video released today shows a U.S. marshal firing four times at close range at a defendant inside a Utah federal courthouse after he rushed the witness stand, jumped and swung with a pen at a shackled witness who barely backed out of the way.

The 24-second footage from the 2014 gang-related racketeering trial was released after a media coalition including The Associated Press argued it was a public record in an important police use-of-force case.

The video shows defendant Siale Angilau, a 25-year-old member of the Tongan Crip gang, calmly rising from his seat beside his attorney during the witness testimony and grabbing his lawyer’s pen.

As someone yells, “whoa, whoa, whoa” but before any officers could react, Angilau sprinted toward the witness and leaped with his right arm cocked overhead with the pen in hand.

The man jumped back to avoid being hit as Angilau fell feet-first over the front of the witness stand.

That’s when the unidentified U.S. marshal shot Angilau four times.

A woman cried out in horror while other law enforcement in suits ran toward the witness stand. Angilau’s defense attorney jumped under a desk while prosecutors stood in shock.

A bailiff swiftly moved to block the entrance to the front of the court and pointed at people in the gallery and told them to stay still with his right hand on his holstered weapon.

“Get on the ground,” someone yelled in the direction of Angilau.

“Drop the pen. Drop the pen out of your hand,” yelled an officer standing over Angilau.

As U.S. District Judge Tena Campbell was escorted out of the courtroom, someone called 911 at the end of the released video.

The unidentified U.S. marshal was cleared of any wrongdoing shortly after the shooting. Lynzey Donahue, a spokeswoman for the Marshals Service, said in a statement the video “demonstrates how quickly violence can erupt, in any situation.” She said the FBI cleared the officer of any wrongdoing and that a review board found the use of force was within agency policy.

Donahue also pointed to a ruling Friday from U.S. District Judge John Dowdell when he dismissed the Angilau’s family’s wrongful death suit, citing the video as proof that the U.S. marshal who is referred to as Jane Doe in his ruling acted reasonably. The family argued Angilau only had a pen and the four shots fired were excessive.

“Having carefully reviewed the video of Mr. Angilau’s swift flight from counsel table, his vault over the witness stand with pen in hand, and his attempt to violently attack the shackled witness, the court has little difficulty determining that (Jane) Doe’s use of force to immediately stop Angilau’s attack was objectively reasonable under the totality of the circumstances,” Dowdell wrote.

The Angilau family attorney, Bob Skyes, offers a contradictory point of view. He said the video shows that the marshal “panicked” and should have used other methods to subdue Angilau. He points out that Angilau was already down on the ground for the final three shots and that a courtroom full of officers could have stopped him to stop him before he harmed anyone with the pen.

“There was no need to use deadly force,” Sykes said. “They weren’t entitled to use the death penalty on him for an assault.”

Sykes said the Angilau family hasn’t decided if they’ll appeal the ruling throwing out the wrongful death lawsuit.

Angilau was one of 17 people named in a 2010 indictment accusing Tongan Crip members of assault, conspiracy, robbery and weapons offenses. He was the last defendant in the case to stand trial, with previous defendants being sentenced to 10 to 30 years in prison.

A mistrial was declared after the shooting.

The Department of Justice wanted the video kept under seal over concerns it could lead to retaliatory gang violence. Faces of the judge, attorneys and jurors are blurred out. The agency declined comment today about the release of the video.

The media coalition including the AP fought for several years with government attorneys to have the video released publicly, arguing that the shooting raised questions about police use of force and upholding the principle of open courts.

Department of Justice attorneys said the media organizations wanted the video to “sell newspapers.”


Good riddance to that psychopath.



Being a real estate investor while black:

In this awesome case however, the cops were firmly on the side of the dude.


The gang in blue does it again.



…and of course the police union is going to appeal.


lmao should have used his gun

lol never noticed before Will Smith has his finger on the trigger the entire time


Florida Police chief purposely targeted black men to pin unsolved crimes on


Nothing new under the sun for Esau’s plan… has been known for ages. Get black people into jail (innocent or guilty) to fuel their legal slavery big business ring.


Prison Rehabilitative Industries and Diversified Enterprises (PRIDE) is a thing.



Crazy… If he had swung back, all those dudes would have been dead.

But yea… Can’t yell at a cop like that, even if he the same color as you.


I’d just like to say fuck Sheriff Bob Gualtier,

It was murder but at least this man is finally is charged.





The police are not here to serve and protect.

They are here to instill fear in the masses, and to keep us in line, far afield from the riches of the 1%ers whom they act as mafia enforcers for.


British trio of police fail to subdue man, onlookers cheer as he escapes.

If these cops are going to wrestling people to the ground they need to learn some Brazilian jujitsu. Also, how soon do you reckon he would have been shot by cops had this been in America?


i was gonna post this. chief of police should not have defended the actions of said cops cuz thats a no win situation


A rarity…


…loss for words.