The Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread: ARCADE EDITION!


#31001

As of now Ed is a cool and interesting character to stay that way is too early to sacrifice him just to conclude a saga that can lead to interesting expanded motifs in the future IMHO

Bison can be also be like Night Terror for a while/temporary that will haunt and mind control telepathically multiple characters “simultaneously” like Ed and Flauke or some dolls while in some sort of what if battle or in a proto cybernetic body before returning to fully restored former self just to expand the plot without overly saturating Bison as the final boss and he as the main conflict other than a recurring character in the sidelines TBH…

Or something like the a mild version of the Joker infection/virus in Batman Arkham Knight

I prefer Bison go back to be in his full glory and finest appearance than Bison Amalgam with Ed or Flauke. That made Dr Doom cool than other villains characters because Doom stays to be Doom in his full glory!!

Since we got G(if a villain), Gill, Urien and Fang to keep everyone busy. We can even add another enhanced Seth Clones with different data under Urien or Fang disposal.


#31002

I prefer Evil Ryu from SF4 from visual, aesthetics, color palletes and movements…

It’s more natural and complementary with Akuma and SNH.

A calm Evil Ryu is more Akuma that natured already SNH which isn’t the cased of Ryu in the current parallel that struggles to resist and battle it from within.


#31003

I prefer Evil Ryu never show up again. Ryu surpassed Satsui no Hado 21 years ago SF3. It’s pure pandering at this point.


#31004

Please please tell us how you feel about Kyle Hebert’s Ryu! Lol


#31005

Agree it should never be visited again, It makes Ryu more like a teenager and Capcom would probably sell him out badly that would ruin his character traits they already messed up with the current direction of Akuma and Ryu personality in MVCi and SFV promotional stuff, the best Ryu story line for mature Ryu is SF3 that is better than SFV Ryu and SF4 Ryu.

Breakdancing Ryu, B-Boy Ryu, Scientist Ryu and etc… Ryu’s character lately have been trying out sellout for a while.

Chun can be everywhere in promotion stuff but not with Ryu.


#31006

Some great points here.

I’d like to clarify that Ryu is useless to Bison now that he has surpassed the SNH. He isn’t a suitable host unless he gives in to evil or is infused with it - both of which have been very difficult to do. Ed doesn’t know what he is dealing with in Ryu (or that Ryu isn’t as suitable a host for Bison like before). It would be a nice twist for Ryu to take pity on Ed while he is imprisoned and reveal at the end that he could’ve escaped anytime he wanted (and wiped the floor with Neo-Shadaloo), but chose not to because he wanted to help Ed who Ryu sees a younger and much more lost version of himself. I think this unexpected act of mercy on behalf of Ryu will show Ed that the world isn’t as Shadaloo painted it for him growing up (Survival of the Strong, power is power).

I like the idea of Tom being introduced as an NPC and goes missing, forcing Alex out of his trailer to find him. We will probably see him get beat off-screen (like much of Gill’s interaction in General Story 2) then Alex finds him and Tom tells him what happened.

I’d like to see Karin and some of the S1 characters, but only in passing for a scene or two.

Not a fan of Ryu catching Gill’s eye, or Vega joining the Illuminati. Too much of a redux of the Shadaloo arc. Let the Illuminati develop their own team.


#31007

Personally I think it would be extremely lame and it would make me actively hate Ryu.
I generally don’t like OP protagonists, at least not an OP protagonist that looks like Ryu. You either pull a Saitama or keep OPness for the villains in my opinion.


#31008

Ryu isn’t an OP protagonist, but let’s be frank, Ed and his goons are just not in the same league. Them going after Ryu is no less idiotic than the SIN Scientists and Viper going after Ryu in TTTB. The point I was getting across is that Ryu knows he is OP relative to them, and chooses to not act on that fact. Therein lies the moral of the story that Ed could benefit from, not everything can be taken by force.


#31009

Just let Ryu be on the sidelines with Sagat and that’s it. IMHO.

Ryu x Sagat interaction is what we need… I hated what happened with Guile and Abel x Nash in ASF because emotions in writing and acting were bland nothing special… too much Ryu x others would steal a special moment with Sagat, we all know Sakura x Ryu is inevitable also… so adding another is kinda go in a worst interaction and it would be all about Ryu stealing a huge part of spotlight again.


#31010

@Phantom_Miria I thought the forums were down? Now I have all of this to catch up on.

My 2 pence on the E.Ryu thing: It can be good to show what happens if Ryu doesn’t fight for himself and can be good plot/character motivation but I feel that at this point of the timeline, E.Ryu should just disappear. If he ever comes back then they should pull a CVS2 where he’s in control but isn’t a screaming evil character. More chaotic neutral. Ryu in the post SFIV era should be a “main character” but not a “protagonist” like Alex or Rashid were in their respective games. His main arc is nearly to the point he was in during SF3, maybe one more time the SnH gets too much but at a less volatile and uncontrollable extent.

@The_Shakunetsu Ryu’s main character interactions have always been Ken/Sakura/Sagat/Akuma. I doubt that Ryu will steal anything if he has little interaction outside these characters. If this is a post SF3 situation, I’d add Oro/Alex to the list.


#31011

I’m talking about the possibility of another cinematic mode and why Ryu X Ed should not happen.


#31012

Sagat’s character story will likely give us ample interaction with Ryu IMO. We wouldn’t need a redux of that in General Story 2, especially if it in no way ties the two to the general plotlines.


#31013

As much as possible to avoid Ryu all over again is by avoiding multiple interaction with his character because attentions cannot be avoided.


#31014

And that would make Ed and his gang feel pathetic and completely worthless while Ryu would come off as patronizing and insufferable and the story they’re in as entirely pointless, or at least that’s the impression I would have. Why bother writing a serious story about Ed and his group when they’re hopeless from the start? Indeed, why bother with 90% of the cast when they’re all Dan tier compared to the people that matter?

Which is why I ultimately reject this interpretation of Ryu as some extraordinary being that is above the rest of the cast: Ryu is actually very average, his ability to tap into the Satsui no Hado before SFV and into Mu after SFV is what allows him to temporarily level up and take on boss level fighters like Bison and Akuma, most of the time though he’s just as skilled as most of the other protagonists and side characters.
Only by being an underdog who’s constantly on his way to progress Ryu can stay an interesting character in my opinion, and this is also the only way to avoid this series from slipping into Dragon Ball nonsense and dumb power-creep.


#31015

Agree with Daemos that Ed isn’t in the same league with Ryu and Bison, they are just people with growth hormone cheated, Ryu is trained throughout almost a life time with one of the most lethal fighting techniques in their fictional world that is almost the same level with another most dangerous man Akuma existed along with Bison, Oro and etc.

but I do agree that Ed establish potential and appeal should not wasted quickly in this current game plot.


#31016

Nah i think it was just about SF4 being a bit trashier and louder style wise, theyr Evil Ryu just try to be Asura’s Wrath kind of cool

Same with Akuma, i think in SFV he’s getting a bit “Oni” in a much much more classy way character design wise, compared to the cheap DragonBall villain he was in SF4

I don’t like the Evil Ryu thing on general, but if must be i like it to be a more visually subtle but extreme change on his intentions rather than a total redesign to be marketing cool

Essentially characterization wise in same scenario

Ryu karate-punch your face with a power adequate to knock you down, help you stand up and say "good fight, let’s do this again one day"
Evil Ryu karate-punch your throat with 100% power, then walk past your dead body

No excessive flashy stuff, dragonballization or whatever
CvS did it well… give him iconic red yes like Akuma, ok with the dark gray gi as it create viseual difference, a bit of more reddish skin and maybe a texture that add a bit of visible veins on his arms/neck/face

I think that may be the case in SFV, specialy if like i hope he will be just an NPC Boss Fight and NOT a character they must actually sell


#31017

I will like this too, but S3 intro seem to suggest the opposite sadly

At this point i hope they at least write it well, and more than that i hope it be some shitty OP NPC rather than a wasted playable slot that could be used infinitely better on some not-Ryu character… i already got a Ryu in SFV, use slots for anything else than power-up version of existing characters


#31018

You can “reject” all you want, but SF canon tell a different story

You don’t even need to call it Dragon Ball, in real life you got peoples that are born naturally better for fighting.
Even in pro fight sport at elite levels… i assure you the #24 ranked fighter train just as much (if not more) than the #1 Champ, but we don’t born all the same

Not counting the SnH as it’s something he “fall” into (so i will jump Akuma/Bison attracted to it), still you got stuff like

-it’s implied he got great talent/spirit etc, most of other characters recognize it

-he’s one of the few characters that completely dedicated his life to training and improve

-it’s implied for good part of his story he fought “holding back” to some extent to keep control (of SnH)

-large majority of characters better than him are much older, and in SF age tend to be a factor (as training/experience/ki), implying he already reached a great level for his age

-the MU thing is not some free gift… it’s supposed to be a very high level state of ki that took a Master like Gouken lot of years to reach/master

-Alex SF3 ending with Ryu friendly treat him like a noob, and Alex is an extremely talented/gifted fighter himself for his age

-And last, the most clear one where you got ORO see in Ryu the potential to be his successor… iirc reducing in his argument of the best young prospects to Ryu and Gill

I think if you watch my avatar and compare it with my usual posting, is hard find anything where i’m being “fanboy” (outside V.Rosso, #vrossobless). specially for SRK forum standards lol

Ryu (like some others) while fighting in optimal conditions IS above most rest of the cast, this is just about know SF canon.
Dispute that, is just bet on the wrong horse

@Daemos

For how i see it the S3 intro handle it well adding an unaware Sagat to the formula: seem like the plan was just let Ryu and Sagat clash and weaken each other, then trap an exhausted Ryu, as i believe SFV Sagat is going to be pretty strong

Is more or less what was Juri’s intent in SF4 making clash Bison & Seth (and did’nt worked because Seth was much inferior)


#31019

We all know Ryu is OP just cuz

Still shitty writing


#31020

I don’t think Ryu is necessarily naturally better at fighting. I think it has more to do with fact that he trains more than anyone else. Like, to the exclusion of all other things in his life.