The Sanwa and Seimitsu FAQ


#71

Alright, I was’nt too sure so I just wanted to get that cleared up, well, the button question anyways. I just completly forgot that the gate only fits into the JLF series and did’nt take that into consideration. D’oh!

Oh yeah, great thread!


#72

Actually you’re wrong, HRAP1 layout, also known as console layout is found to be on Super Neo 29 Cabinets if you make the cabinet an 8 button cabinet, so it’s Neo Geo Layout. HRAP2 layout is well the other cabs (versus city, blast city, naomi, and cyberlead?) layouts.


#73

Actually he is not. Take a look at any Astro City-format 2L12B panel manufactured by Seimitsu or Sega, you’ll see each player’s button layout is rotated differently. For panels manufactured by Sanwa the difference is much less noticeable though.


#74

Quick and easy question:

On a LS-32 stick (the one without the pcb) which tab is the ground? The top one or the bottom one.


#75

Either is fine.

~Paik


#76

The semitsu ls32-01 feels much more like a comp than a sanwa. Granted I’ve only played one once (sanwa) , but you can definitely feel the corners on a semitsu, the only diff between the comp and semitsu is that because semitsu has such a short path around the stick, the diagonals are deep, so take Ryu for example, if you push down, diagonal, and forward the red fireball will come out because the diagonal is so close to down, so you do the motion diagonal forward. Wierd at first but after you get used to it, its pretty nice. So after having a jap stick for a few months I can play on an american just fine, but I really like how precise they are, and how quickly they respond.


#77

I knew that was true for the buttons but I didnt know it was true for the actual joystick.


#78

hmmm in this thread, it was confirmed that the octagon gate can fit in a T5 stick with a little mod on the gate

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117885


#79

You know, I totally forgot about the jumpsuit mod and all the sticks it works for. Thanks for pointing that out! Sorry for the lapse in intelligence iAHVB!

~Paik


#80

I’ve been lurking these forums for a while and I’m thinking of building a custom stick. However, I can’t decide whether to put in a Sanwa or Seimitsu stick. Now, I know it all comes down to personal preference, but it would be very helpful for me if anyone could compare the feel of the JLF and/or LS-32 compared to the stick on a Hori SC2 joystick, since I own one.

Any comparisons on Sanwa/Seimitsu buttons vs the buttons on the Hori would also be greatly appreciated.


#81

3 quick questions…

i know you need a 1 1/8" bit to drill holes for the 30mm buttons, but what size bit for the 24mm buttons?.. i assume it doesn’t matter if they are screw in correct?

also, do you need a special tool to tighten down the screw in sanwa buttons?

Thanks in advance


#82

emphrygian: I would say that the stock SC2 joystick would feel more like an LS-32. And the stock buttons would feel like the normal Seimitsu PS-14-G.

Lupus: For 30mm you need a 1-3/16" tool. For 24mm you need a 15/16" tool. And unlike Happ buttons, you do NOT need a special tool to tighten the screw-ins for Sanwa or Seimitsu.

~Paik


#83

do you use a particular ratchet then? or is finger tightening sufficient? Thanks again homie.


#84

Just your fingers : )

~Paik


#85

You’re the man Paik… loving your stick by the way… i’ve spent some more time with it recently and love it… octagon gate just came in yesterday and can’t wait to pop it open and check out your wiring

thanks again homie


#86

Any idea if anyone’s done a writeup on how to mod a CPS Fighter stick with sanwa parts?


#87

Anyone know if the Seimitsu LS 32-01 has extra play in the stick? I’ve got an HRAP2 that I just put it in. The stock Sanwa was nice but I heard alot of things about the 32-01 that I figured I’d like, including a stiffer spring and a shorter throw. Well that’s all well and good but when I push the stick in a direction, after it hits the restrictor, the top part of the stick moves an 1/8th of an inch past where the restrictor is supposed to stop it. This is because of all the vertical play in the stick itself (you can pull it up and down just like Sanwa’s). The stick DOES stop at the restrictor but since of the vertical play, it moves up and over in the direction that I’m throwing it in. I don’t know if any of that makes sense, it’s hard to explain it. In any case, it kinda defeats the purpose of switching over to this stick since the throw ends up being the same as the Sanwa’s. Does anyone have that issue or do I have faulty equipment?


#88

Taiki, the CPS Fighter Stick would be pretty odd to mod considering the stock buttons are small and close to each other. The stick is fairly thin and would be difficult to mount a stick. I haven’t even looked at mine that close because it doesn’t seem to be a reasonable stick to even attempt.

H82, I’m not really sure what you’re describing but I have never had a problem with the LS-32 moving past the restrictor. Most of the time, my shaft hits the metal base piece before it even has a chance to hit the plastic restrictor piece. I mean, yeah if you put a really strong force on any stick, it will have vertical play that will lift the stick out of it’s normal path. But if you’re doing that, then you’re just not playing correctly. : )

~Paik


#89

well, looks like I get the task of doing that write up then. :slight_smile: After seeing the mod of the NeoGeo old style home stick with Sanwas, I figured it was POSSIBLE…

I finally broke my CPS Fighter Stick apart and finding that there is more than enough space to fit screw in 24mm sanwas for the buttons and maybe an LS-32 for the stick. I prefer sanwa, so i’m going to try to shoehorn a JLF first


#90

Keep the stock stick, it’s Sanwa anyway.