more people need to understand and appreciate Neveldine & Taylor’s greatness.
Didn’t Another Earth come out around the same time as Melancholia? For some reason I associate those two films…
edit: The Tin Drum Criterion was released today.
Early 2011, easy to associate cuz of the giant planet in the sky thing. I liked Another Earth. Strange concept, equally strange ending.
heh, there are more similarities to Melancholia than just that. one difference is there is a specific reason why Another Earth’s character was so depressed. also it was interesting to see Tom Cruise’s cousin play someone that wasn’t a bad or creepy guy.
I guess I’m shit out of luck if I want to discuss Zero Dark Thirty. Everywhere it gets brought up, all people want to talk about is torture instead of what they actually thought about the fucking movie.
I haven’t seen it, sorry goody.
Hurt Locker’s inaccuracies turned me off to any more of Bigelow’s ‘topical’ action thrillers.
What bothered you about its inaccuracies? Minding, of course, that it is a work of fiction and is entitled to the benefit of artistic license.
This isn’t about a character surviving an un-survivable event, in the interest of style or simplification, or moving the story along. Basically all the main scenes in the movie were completely incorrect, distractingly so. For a while I thought I was nit-picking, but it’s hard to empathize with the people the movie represents irl if all the events are portrayed wrong.
It’s akin to the criticism of Crash 2005’s depiction of race relations in LA (complete fantasy). The main message is still there, the technical aspects of the production are still there to analyze, but the events that are supposed to support the movie’s message are just divorced from reality. Makes it hard to take a movie intended to realistically dramatize current events seriously.
EDIT: Or what Wikipedia says http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hurt_Locker#Reception
Gonna try watch Zero Dark Thirty tonight if I can pull myself away from CoD.
I won’t see ZDT for a very simple reason, it’s not my kind of movie. I didn’t see HL for the same reasons. I feel I’ve reached the point in my life where I can pretty accurately judge what my kind of movie is, and ZDT is not it. It’s just not in my cinematic wheelhouse…
I am horribly guilty of that very thing. I will just call a movie I don’t like shitty. I will recant and admit latter on that the movie is not my kind of thing, but I do have a bad habit of making my opinion fact.
Sounds like you are describing gamers
No one here watched gangster squad?
I rewatched Inception. Some thoughts:
Sometimes, you see a movie that other people are raving about and you just don’t get it. Inception was one of those for me back in its theatrical run.
When I first saw it, I thought the idea was cool, but the clunky implementation turned me off. The exposition was so dialogue-heavy that the characters often seemed to be narrating plot summary to one another for the audience’s benefit. The various scenarios presented throughout the story were called dreams, but they bore little resemblance to actual dream logic. Plus, being a high-energy thriller, Inception’s visually confusing action sequences were a poor choice. They were impossible to read from shot to shot.
I think those objections still hold up. And yet, when I rewatched Inception last night, I came away thinking that maybe I underrated it just a little bit, that maybe its good marks hold a little more weight.
It really is a cool idea, and if you ignore all the stuff about dreams and rethink the movie as a narrative about shared storytelling or shared fantasy, it starts to make more sense. When the film does get visually imaginative, the results are stunning and surreal, especially in the standout sequence with Joseph Gordon-Levitt in the hotel. There are bits of foreshadowing that are more clever upon retrospect–entertainingly clever, not obnoxiously clever. And while the visual style falls apart from shot to shot, it does keep us oriented when transitioning between the nested worlds.
Even taking its flaws into account, Inception is well worth seeing. I’ve said it before: I’d rather see a movie whose reach exceeds its grasp than a movie that doesn’t reach at all. Inception is similar to The Matrix in that regard. But while the Matrix explains itself and dramatizes its internal logic more cinematically, it doesn’t pursue its ideas very far. The Matrix opts instead for a relatively conventional action narrative once the first act is over. Inception wrings an action-packed heist yarn from its ideas, but unlike with the Matrix, Inception’s ideas retain their integral role in the film right up to the end. Take away the nested worlds and anthropomorphic anxieties, and the movie goes with them.
One thing I don’t think I weighed in on before is the ending. I don’t know that I have a strong opinion either way regarding the famous insoluble dilemma. All the same, I will suggest invoking the Tethercat Principle. To wit: we never see Dom wake up and we never see the top fall down.
I don’t agree with most of what you said but I just wanted to point out the jarring change in visuals most notably color palette from dream to dream is intentional and serves a somewhat hidden narrative purpose. Inception is one of my favorites for many reasons, one of those reasons being that it displays the strengths of my favorite sub genre “mind fuck” films better than most if not all others I’ve seen. I’m a sucker for films that require the viewer to put some effort into fully appreciating them and Inception does require a good deal of note taking and multiple viewing to fully appreciate similar to Nolan’s best work Memento.
The ending is awesome but everyone who focuses on that is akin to admiring the mona lisa for it’s frame.
I was just discussing Inception at lunch with a friend. Now he loves the movie. I am closer to GM in my opinion of the film. I think I may like it slightly better than him, but it’s debatable. Anyways, GM’s point about the Matrix is pretty apt because both movies did about the same thing to me. Blew me the fuck away in the theater then started to fall apart more on repeat viewings. However, I feel Inception will hold up better over time because it does not crutch itself purely on visual spectacles as Matrix did. Oddly, I liked Dark Knight better on my second viewing, though I still don’t hold it in the regard that most do.
I’m trying to think of another movie that was crazy enough to weave 5 different timelines together, like Inception’s ‘plane ride.’ Drawing blanks. And it wasn’t even half of the movie.
^ cloud atlas. movie of the year.
Inglourious Basterds dives in and out of nested narratives with multiple layers, but it does it so casually that people rarely talk about it.