The ST match vids + discussion thread


#1815

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK0hH2WCCjE&list=FLflzx3KHVcTzV0z3gGPadjg

STPlayah vs Kuroppi


#1816

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrRrSOmoLNw&feature=share&list=FLflzx3KHVcTzV0z3gGPadjg&index=18

Mysterious Figher(leut dan) vs Yuuai


#1817

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwzTUYIv4g&feature=share&list=FLflzx3KHVcTzV0z3gGPadjg&index=20

Sasori jpn vs Yuuai jpn


#1818

http://youtu.be/PNHgkwfkBGw

STPlayah(Iown U) vs Marsgatti 2011


#1819

SSF2T GGPO Casuals - Afro Legends (Boxer) vs. Airibon (FeiLong)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu3cmhqtLeo


#1820

SSF2T GGPO Casuals - Jodim (Zangief) vs POS (Dhalsim)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuq7Bk2wv68


#1821

SSF2T GGPO Casuals - Yunes-K21 (DeeJay) vs. Zagi (ChunLi)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2fzl1aTwvE


#1822

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfmTs5F0JkY


#1823

Watts eltrouble
http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL9NTDwg96_2Af7LRRoefffXiz8FAzK1wO&v=MCOLactdXLU

Shotosallday dgv
http://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PL9NTDwg96_2Af7LRRoefffXiz8FAzK1wO&v=IBKVps06JQc


#1824

Wow its great to see ST being kept alive by the top dogs as well as new blood. Truly a gem that is only getting better with time. Just got my hands back on my stick (no homo lol) so I hope to get back into groove of things while juggling the do’s of real life. UNV Rasta


#1825

I’ll just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8rDyXDDNgo&list=UU2pktn2f2GhehxvFXFeCOQg


#1826

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_oC4N1QY9s

Footage from the ST-tournament at Gigacon, about two weeks after I started playing ST. Would appreciate feedback on my games (I’m the guy playing O.Sagat). :slight_smile:
Also, I play slightly less terrible in the later games than I do in the one at the start of the video, so please disregard that first game. D:


#1827

It is pleasant to see the talented artwork from Udon they’ve done in remix.


#1828

Hey, just had a look at some of your matches assuming you’re Player 1, and I’d recommend the following - stop jumping, and don’t jump in, ever. In fact try and maintain as much distance as you can. If you get a knockdown, get the opponent to wake up on a meaty fireball and continue pressure. You can stagger your tiger shots in terms of timing, also throw out occasional normals or doing nothing if you think your opponent is going to try and guess jump in, and then punish them with any number of anti airs.

If you do like knockdown jump in pressure, you may want to try new Sagat - try and score a knockdown or punish with a tiger knee, which will give you the opportunity to pressure with crossup/fake crossup j.forward on the opponent’s wakeup. His fireballs are shittier but you don’t seem to like playing the zoning game all that much :slight_smile:

Good luck! And that looks like it was a fun tourney :slight_smile:


#1829

Thanks for the feedback, I’ll keep those things in mind. The jumping issue in particular is a bad habit that I’ll try to get rid of. =p

Also, I actually do enjoy zoning quite a bit, to the point that I actually switched mains in two other games to zoners after having so much fun with O.Sagat this tournament. :smiley: A lot of the wakeup-pressure I did was because I predicted people would try (and fail) to reversal DP. Still, I guess dabbling in N.Sagat also could be worth a try. =)


#1830

For all intents and purposes, O.Sagat is just demonstrably better than N.Sagat. O.Sagat can also pressure opponents on wakeup with safe jumps, high/low mixups, not to mention a vastly superior st.short. A safe jump j.short, st.short can be hit confirmed into any combo of your choice, along with the fact that st.short x fireball is a great tool to push your opponent back in case they do jump in.

Of course, a simple cr.forward on their wakeup is good as well. If they try to reversal and fail, they’ll get hit, so you can link it into another cr.forward x tiger shot or tiger knee. Lots of options if you choose to play more aggressively up close.

N.Sagat’s fun to play because you have to rely much more on smart footsies than just raw zoning and damage, but that being said, there’s really no inherent advantage in playing N.Sagat besides having a super that can go through fireballs.


#1831

On that note, it’d be great to watch eltrouble’s recent tutorial on O.Gat if you haven’t seen it - http://www.twitch.tv/arkadeum/b/572823461

And it’s good that you’ve brought up st.short. Watching John Choi matches, you can see how it can be used to great effect to help with O.Sagat’s space control and closer-range poking. A great option to add to your gameplay instead of relying mostly on cr.RH or Uppercut.


#1832

St.short is a ridiculously good normal. It comes out fast, hits low on most characters, it’s 2 hits and both of them can be special cancelled, arguably the farthest range of any light attack in the game (not counting dhalsim).


#1833

Hahah, I actually stumbled over that tutorial last week purely by accident. Thanks for making that, I learned quite a bit from it.

(please make more of them, it was great)


#1834

You should play N.Gat he’s got a crossup BARF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HHs7SSeYPI&feature=youtu.be