The ST match vids + discussion thread


From another thread:

I meant to ask this earlier, as I haven’t seen the games and was just curious, but what is he doing at the round starts that’s scaring his opponents so much? Just something like jumping a fireball using anticipation or lightning reflexes and opening the round up with a big combo like j.fierce, c.forward XX Ball?


EDIT: edit


Well, Komoda’s round-start antics are simply mysterious. There’s no damn reason The SuperStar boxer should crouch for a minute and then block a Blanka jump in as the round begins. That’s just Komoda Magic.

Having said that, one of the most important concepts in fighting games is something I like to think of in terms of CPU load. A better player will have a clearer head and be more able to focus on the most important shit at any given moment.

The seed for this idea was something Chensor discussed a long-ass time ago during SFA2 days. If you were using Zangief in that game, you wanted to jump in, right, but you first needed to get your opponent to focus on the ground game. With standing medium kicks and crouching fierces? This principle works in any fighting game with any characters.

I use Blanka, right, and there are a couple Ryu players here in New York that just have my number. Now, even though I’m getting beat, I’m aware enough to see that they’re clearly running at “lower CPU load” than me. Like:

nohoho: X = footsie, jump ins, trickery, bites, etc.

flashg: X = st, O = should I have a turkey sandwich for dinner?

So that sucks. Heh. But there are plenty of Ryu players that I can wail on:

nohoho: X = footsie, hops, etc. O = did this fucker use akuma against me last week? should I have a turkey sandwich for dinner? etc. hehe

ryu player: X = footsie, not getting bitten, fireballs, not getting bitten <- no room for DPs

In the first case I’m not jumping in cold and not getting DPed in a million years. In the latter case I can jump at dude and he’ll just block it because his mental shit is in the red.

Komoda, as one of the top of the top Kansai players, probably winds up in the latter situation even against A-class opponents. So that might explain some of the stuff he gets away with?

(FWIW, I think this cognitive psych stuff is a big part of what makes players like Justin and Daigo so dangerous. They got their mental game really streamlined. Plenty of CPU power to spare, as it were.)

There’s a case in point today @ mikado:
In the sagat-cammy fight (fifth file down) the cammy player blocks a couple of jump ins because he’s thinking about other stuff (sandwiches!) Great finish in that match. Players for these vids listed on ze blog.


Very interesting post! That theory is a good read. I’ve noticed in my own games that I sometimes miss anti-air Thrust Kicks just because I’m not even thinking about using it.

Oh, and those Mikado videos are golden, like always. I’d never seen Shacho (purple Cammy in game 2) play before, but he’s great with the Cannon Drill and rocked the crossup so well that his mixups looked like something out of the Versus series of games, haha. Toutanki was also as amazing as usual.


Speaking of the recently mentioned Mikado vids, why is Kurahashi playing Ryu rather than Guile, or does he only play Guile at major ST tournies or has the unthinkable happened and he has switched mains? Anyone know whats up?


He plays Ryu well enough, so I guess he just has fun with a different character from his main. In all the major tournaments he uses Guile. Smaller tourneys he might switch around.



Kurahashi has an extremely dangerous and efficient ken as well that is easily on par with the best.


Those of us that are exposed to ST only as movie hounds don’t get to see much sub character action. Footage of Tama’s Chun or Pony’s Hawk (at master secret cup, I think) are rare gems. Stuff like Kurahashi Ken (!) or Mayakon Guile doesn’t seem to make it to the net.

Speaking of that, there should be some vids from a recent Mikado solo 2on coming soon. Noguchi Fei/O.Sagat (<- standing in for CE sagat to practice for SBO, I guess) Also Taira Dictator/New Sagat, hopefully Mattsun Ken/Cammy.


Anyone got the vids from EVO east? I’d love to see those.


No you wouldn’t…those matches were UGLY…:confused:


but your matches were beautiful right?


Worst matches I’ve ever played in my life. :sad:







Mayakon Vs Komoda AKA= NEVER GIVE UP :D:D


Does anyone know how Taira pulled off this trick against KKY’s Sim in this video [media=youtube]1GXZezg7mWk[/media] at 3:25? He practically walked forward like Chun with a stored super.


After completing the super motion on the joystick, you actually have 11 frames to hit the button, so you can take a noticeable step forward before doing the super. I’ve also seen Tama do it with Boxer’s super after low Jabs. (They do it to fake out the opponent…make 'em think a throw is coming.)


Ah now I understand, figured it was some technical issue to do with the inputs, makes for a pretty evil fake. Is this info already mentioned in the wiki, or T.Akiba’s site?


The 11 frames is mentioned in T.Akiba’s site. The tactic is not on either (I scanned over both); and is a usefull tactic. Thanks NKI :wgrin:


Can anyone post this players names?

[media=youtube]fKbFKG94qQU[/media] Ryu Vs Guile

[media=youtube]7LjA63OvPDw[/media] Ryu Vs Chun

[media=youtube]JurCQcwigVU[/media] Guile Vs Gief

[media=youtube]1ra4hDeFmZU[/media] Gief Vs Chun



geif = unipon
chun= onoe
ryu= san

I can’t read the guile one, sorry.