NOTENOTENOTE: I haven’t updated this in a long time, the last vote i counted was somewhere around post 120, now this thread is at ~350 posts. If anyone wants to count from 120 to where the thread is now, feel free to do so and pm me the count and I’ll update this op. otherwise we can just let this thread turn into a general balance discussion. (note to whoever wants to count, some people have already voted, so you have to check against the earlier votes to make sure you aren’t double counting anyone’s votes)END NOTE ENDNOTE
For the purposes of this thread the term “Balance” = In terms of any character can win/it all comes down to the player skill?
Some games have legendary character balance problems (MKT for example)
But what games are the most character balanced? Or at least have a reputation for it…
these are the tallied results from posts through #118 (as best as I can interpret, feel free to post your own count if you disagree with mine) :
Guilty Gear Accent Core 10 votes yes, 0 votes no
Virtua Fighter4/5 +10 -0? (4-5 seem to have the most votes in the series)
Garou: Mark of Wolves +7 -0
Arcana Hearts 3 +6 -0 (i almost took a -1 here but that list was heavily disputed)
SSF4 +6 -0
Tekken6 +5 -0
*4. Vampire Savior +7 -2
Samurai Shodown 5sp +5 -0
King Of Fighters 2002 +5 -0
StreetFighter Hyper Fighting +4 -0
SF: 3rd Strike +4 -0
StreetFighter Alpha 2 +3 -0
XvSF +3 -0
Melty Blood AACC +3 -0
runners up so far: UMK3 +2 -1, Street fighter Super Turbo +4 -2, , SC2 +2 -0, , (give or take, some of these were hard to figure out from the posts) KoF 98 +2 -1, Jojo’s +1 -0, TVC +2 -0
*Vampire Savior is disputed, one tier list shows significant character balance issues, but there has been significant rebuttal to said tier list.
NOTE: the above list is just a compilation of votes, I’m not trying to claim its true (nor scientific).
even just a few 7-3 or 8-2 matchups should probably disqualify a game from the list, but for all i know there are no games that are completely free of 7-3 and 8-2 matchups… in which case post your list and explain why despite the few lopsided matchups in the game it should still belong on the list.
NOTE: of course balance is subjective, this is YOUR list. not the definitive objective list against all games shall be judged forevermore. just put what YOU THINK is right.
NOTE: CHARACTER BALANCE DOES NOT MEAN A GAME IS GOOD. DO NOT JUST VOTE FOR A GAME YOU LIKE.
NOTE: If someone above you posted a game that you disagree with, do not troll. Instead offer an intelligent reason for why you think they made an error in their statement. For example: Person A lists 3rd strike, and person B instead of typing “lol 3rd strike not balanced i am huge angry troll” please type “i disagree with 3rd strike, there are several matchups in that game which are very very lopsided for ____ reason, I would suggest ss5sp instead of 3rd strike because _______”
NOTE 3: IF you do not explain your reason for saying ____ does not belong, then I may not count your vote as it could be a troll. posting an accepted matchup chart is a good rebuttal if it proves very lopsided matchups
NOTE 4: IF there is a relatively well-accepted tier list for the game, posting a link to it as a rebuttal against/argument for it being considered is encouraged. Posting a list that is not well-accepted by the game’s community won’t be very helpful to the discussion, so try to keep that in mind.
if you want to troll, please do it somewhere else. of course, if you want to troll, you probably didn’t read this far…