Tier Discussion For Old School Fighting Games


#1

Been playing Xbox emulator and went through a lot of older fighting games. I am very curious who do you guys consider top tier in:

SF2: Champion Edition

SF2: Hyper Fighting

Fatal Fury Special

KOF 94

KOF 95

Art of Fighting 1 (VS Mode Of Course)

Art of Fighting 2

World Heroes

World Heroes 2

Samurai Shodown 1

If there are other games of that era let me know :slight_smile:


#2

SF2:CE-Bison is top, idk if I wanna say God, but hes very close.

HF-Ryu is top because he has the fastest fireball iirc.


#3

WW Guile and Sim
CE Bison
HF Guile and Sim again
Super Sagat
ST not sure but i hear a mix of Balrog Old Sagat and Akuma being god tier

A1 Guy Rose Akuma
A2 Rose Chun Li Ken Ryu
A3 not sure

FF Special I hear is D.KIng
Sam Sho 2 Ukyo
SF3NG Yun Yang
SF3SI Akuma and Ibuki


#4

SF3:NG was Ibuki all day lol.

ST-Well Akuma is god but he’s not allowed when good people play. Top is O.Sagat, Dhalsim, and Rog.

SF3:2i-Top Akuma, Ibuki, Sean

WW was Guile ALL DAY Sim was a far away 2nd.

HF- Ryu, Sim, Guile (I think) not sure about Sim.

Dunno about A1, you’re A2 is right. A3 is V Akuma, A Sim, V Sak, V Geif, V Ryu


#5

SS1 - charlotte. she’s too good in that game


#6

Umm…

HF- Ryu(Jab SRK, frame adv on fireballs), Sagat(DAMAGE) GIEF('nuff said). Sim and Guile were not even close in there. Gief is disgustingly good in this one.

CE- Bison and IIRC Sagat(once again, simple damage) again. I forget who else was up there.


#7

These are not SOLID fact but here goes anyway

  1. kof94 i heard alot of ramblings about england being god like because of king alltough i dont belive it myself i think Mexico, japan

  2. kof 95 - Eiji, iori, kyo This game is made broken though i mean MAD basically whoever powers up first is probably going to win

  3. FF special - i have a friend who won a big tourney here way way back and he’s allways said Jubei and mai, mai is godlike on her stage apprantly

  4. world heros probably fuma and hanzo not sure

  5. world heros 2 - EVERYBODY except mudman, you only have to get in a hit with more or less anybody and it’s game over everybody has 100% that are piss easy

  6. AOF2 - mickey,king

  7. SS1 - charllote and gen-an

As for the old sf games i’ve read ALOT of different things

This is just what i’ve read so please do not go into one

sf2 - Guile sim

CE - Bison sagat guile

HF - honda ken

ssf2- sagat

I remember seeing balrog boxer TOP in either hf or CE and i definently do not remember seeing ryu top in ANY sf game, how solid that list was is debateable, but really any tier list is debateable i guess it’s what makes tiering so interesting to a certain extent

Also i’d like to see the ranking for kof 96 if anybody knows it, i have my own theorys i’d just like to hear anybody elses


#8

a1- akuma, guy, sodom, ken

in that order


#9

SS2: Ukyo. Swallow swipe zoning is too insane. Not to mention he has some of the fastest pokes in the game, all of which can be comboed straight into an after image slash.

SS3: Bust Haoh. Most retarded infinite in the history of fighting games.

MK2: Mileena and Jax. Charged up sai and ground pound can be released at wil. Kung Lao and Liu Kang came up next.


#10

HK: Ken (Touch of death!!)

MK2: Mileena (the original AHVB) and Kung Lao was a PIMP with that dive kick


#11

In fatal fury special, Duck King was good cuz of his simple infinite if you could get in close enough to use it. Joe Higashi also had the same infinite, Mai had some pretty simple damage and a quick, hard to punish air dive on her stage. Jubei had some nasty command grab setups, especially in the corner. Lawrence and Billy had some pretty good poke games going on, as well. But Kim IMO is the best in that game…he’s got some simple damage options, good priority, and even a mediocre player can do some damage with him. And if you’re playing a rom set up with Ryo unlocked, then don’t even bother with anyone else-he was unlockable only on the home cart, and he broke the game something terrible.

I want to say Ken was super good in CE as well, but for the life of me, I can’t remember why…I think it was a touch of death combo.


#12

Honda and ken top if HF wtf?! It’s Ryu for sure, rest are debateable.

VS-Sasquatch, Q Bee, Lord Raptor.

SFEX+alpha-Zangief runs that shit.

Xvsf-Storm, Gambit

MVC1-Strider, Red Venom, War Machine, Gold War Machine


#13

xvssf-charlie and magneto

HF-Ken is the man!!!:smiley:


#14

mag is nothing like he is in mvc2 in xvsf, he’s good but not top.


#15

ST is considered pretty balanced. Every character has certain matches that they can win, and every character has certain match-ups in which they will invariable lose. Except Akuma, who is so omnipotent that he is banned from tourneys.

In CE, M. Bison was the undisputed top, as Psycho Crushers chipped like mad and were very hard to stop. Underneath him was debatable between Sim, Guile, and Ryu, as they were the only characters who could reliably beat PCs. One thing to remember about this game, however, was that almost everyone, if not everyone, had Touch of Death comboes.


#16

In CE, M. Bison was the undisputed top, as Psycho Crushers chipped like mad and were very hard to stop. Underneath him was debatable between Sim, Guile, and Ryu, as they were the only characters who could reliably beat PCs. One thing to remember about this game, however, was that almost everyone, if not everyone, had Touch of Death comboes. **
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yes i believe everyone but dhalsim had re-dizzy combos

in the original street fighter 2 world warrior Zangief could not be stopped once you were knocked down. with no wake up moves there was no way to get away from a short kick/spd you either took the hit and were grabbed or blocked and were grabbed and then he landed 2 steps away to do it all over again


#17

I’ll try and cover the 2D MK’s

MK1: Sonya, Johnny Cage
MK2: Mileena, Jax, Liu Kang, Kitana
MK3: Sub-zero, Kabal, Nightwolf, Jax, Robot Smoke, Kano
UMK3: Kabal, Human Smoke, Kung Lao, Nightwolf, Robot Smoke, Kano, Jax, Ermac
MKT: Noob Saibot, Kabal, MK2 Kung Lao, Human Smoke, Nightwolf, Baraka, Robot Smoke, Rain, Kano, Jax, Ermac

Matt


#18

can you please explain why these are the tiers. thank you.


#19

I love MK2 but always heard it suffered from god tier:

Jax

Mileena

Lui Kang
Kung Lao
etc…

Reptile (shame I like him)


#20

What’s up with some Eternal Champions Challenge from the Dark Side.