Maybe this thread should have been called “Tier Lists: Who cares?” But, anyway just jumping back into Street Fighter after a long hiatus, I’ve been picking up ALOT of information/misinformation on the whole scene, and it seems like people are so busy jocking lists, top players, and theory fighting that the core of what I remember the original games to be has turned to a mishmash of watching Daigo vs Justin Wong and believing everything knuckleheads on this forum post about how to fight, when to fight, and this “flowchart” style of play that I personally think is what ruined the fighting genre in the first place.
Before Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat, I don’t really remember a multiplayer fighting game for consoles that appealed to the masses, and I’m sorry to say, but at least 60% of the country doesn’t have a bustling arcade scene within a fair driving distance. When good fighting games first started hitting the consoles, anybody could pick up a controller and at least have a fighting chance, no pun intended. That was what would make it fun, anyone could come to your place and play, and maybe win, regardless of how much you had been practicing. This is all personal opinion, so please don’t attack me on how throwing matches are better than mashing matches regarding WW. Well, through the various iterations of the Street Fighter series, (even MK noobs know that it is a weak game, increasingly so over the years…) a kind of elitist club has been formed in the cities that DID have access to arcades, and knowledge of the exploitability of the game(s) that a normal SNES owner could never attain in his shitty little farmhouse in Texas at an age too young to travel to Dallas (apply it to your state and dont tell me that I’m trailier trash. w/e.)
I’ve always loved the internet as far as competitive gameplay goes, but I think that this “NorCal, SoCal” arcade scene has fucked up the fighting genre for the masses in the states. Flowcharts and tiers dominate what your average player thinks is going to win so much that almost no one is willing to experiment and play the game that they’d like to…(Rufus, Fei; from Justin Wong.) Once a top player proclaims that this is the way to win, people, especially on this site, (jesus in 3 posts I lost over 9000 rep in just asking pretty basic questions that hadn’t yet been asked,) people will pay such close attention that they will actually main Fei or Rufus, when before they were stuck on Sagat, because he is GODLY.
TL; DR version:
The people that BEG for more competition, for a larger player base in ALL fighting games are the same elitist fuckers that are shaping the community into a theory fuckfest that no average player can just play, even influencing developers to shape a game around their hardcore ideals to the point where if you don’t play in the arcade where Jwong or Valle lives then you just don’t stand a chance attempting to play the character that you enjoy (I always liked Fei Long for flame kick…not because flame kick had enough invincible frames to beat out most jump-in normals…) because this set of ideals that 80% of the people don’t agree with, yet conform to in fear of being ostracized or alienated, is the one that is pushed onto an ENTIRE genre, causing a web 2.0 nation to be confronted with the fear of LOSING (omg!) or adapting to **** that have been slipping quarters down the chute after smoking 2 lbs of medicinal marijuana in california, just to find out that they actually push Capcom to make games that push you out of a loop that makes the company money. Who cares if the new command for SRK is df, df+P. You do! Because this community tells you to! Bottom line, wah wah, sf 4 lacks depth, when 2-3 years ago people HATED every game past alpha, but now 3s is LOOOOVED because they told you to. Play with fuckin Dan if you like him, and maybe Capcom will realize that these snugfags that spend 60 bucks a game will turn into 12 noobies that play EVERY sf game religiously will equal higher profits for a genre that is “dying” and has been dead since SNES. Capcom needs to realize that it may piss off a few “hardcore fans” to make a profit, when we were the ones making them money in the first place. Also, let regional competition lie where it does, they are better than us, deal with it. If japan wants something different, give it to them, otherwise don’t lose an entire market to 1,000 people or less.
TL; DR; DR that version. SRK is full of people that think what others want them to think. Even the owner of the site is terrified of what the community has become, and has such changed the layout of the site, even googleads in case your hardcore junkies go to hadoken.net lol. At least he has a grasp on what will help the genre, when all you knuckleheads are worried about is winning in a tournament you never even had a chance to compete in. The gaming community has changed, accept it, or be stuck forcing developers into games like Dark Void to make money. Your call. Plz flame. kthx.