jimmy1200srk: i put chun above karas. you should play tvc though. i think right now, since the game is still young, people are getting fucked by stuff that will not be so in the coming months, but i feel you. ive watched a lot of matches, and played tons of tvc. i own it, and i wouldnt worry to much about karas. sagat is too good. capcom has dick rode him for over a decade. they love making sagat a beast. has he ever sucked
moroha: He wasn’t amazing in Alpha! And apparently they’re nerfing his damage in SF4 home. He’s good for sure in 4, but he’s not unbeatable. He seems to be one of those characters who’s just good across the board. And he gets his Ultra off of everything; forward roundhouse, uppercut cancel, focus attack, whatever. Uppercut cancel into ultra is like the second strongest way to get into your Ultra outside of like Gouken’s normal throw into Ultra.
jimmy1200srk: nice. did you ever get a chance to play at the arcades back in the day when they existed?
moroha: Yeah, I frequented White Marsh Tilt all the time. Played lots of Calibur 2 and some CVS1.
moroha: I really wish arcades were still alive and kicking, but you’d really need to have a new model of business if you wanted to run a successful arcade in America today.
moroha: Like, Momo2 in Ohio, the SB3 venue, looks to be really successful. I don’t think they run that many fighting game events during the year? But like, they’ve got a very warm and fresh atmosphere, lots of quality TV’s, in addition to other nice things like couches, a food stand and a bowling alley.
jimmy1200srk: nice. i use to play at marley station mall all the time. thats waaaaay back. talking about before marvel superheroes dropped in the arcade. it was so hype. they use to have x men vs street fighter on the big screen, and sf3. i remember when tekken 3 first dropped. that shit was hype hype hype there. aaaaaaah, i miss those days. there was an arcade in severna park thats super throw back. i use to play killer instinct, and mortal kombat there. then i had annapolis mall also, which was where the heat was at. there and marley use to be the shit
moroha: If you tried to set up an old school arcade you’d just go under these days. Why play SF4 for 50 cents a play when you could just sit at home and play online? Which is real unfortunate. In a place like Japan it’s successful because you can go play the best in a really tightly packed area. America’s so spread out, it’s tough.
moroha: Ah, I went to Annapolis Mall a few times.
moroha: There and Eastpoint, Aladdin’s Castle.
moroha: But White Marsh was my stomping grounds.
moroha: White Marsh was fucking great because they weren’t afraid to try shit. Like, they got SVC Chaos, which wasn’t a good game per se, but they got that shit new. They even got like, Matrimelee.
jimmy1200srk: nice, that sb3 venue sounds nice. i wish arcades were still alive. yeah, i think a lot of people forget how compact japan is in comparison to the usa. word, i remember seeing chaos there. i remember when i first saw steve, and he was playing svc at annapolis mall, while everyone else was playing dr, and i was like, that game sucks, but damn you make it look good
moroha: do you travel for games atm? or are looking to get into it
jimmy1200srk: and he was doing that on shitty sticks. well, i live in vegas now, so not really. the only thing i really play now is tvc and hnk. i have a t6 machine here, but have chilled on it. furthest i have traveled is 2 minute walking distance to unlv to beat up on people in tvc. my roommate is getting good at the game though, so i dont have to travel far for comp. in md though, i would be over my boy james house most. i use to go to grimms to play tekken, and damons. traveled to nap town mall back in the day before they closed. thats about it. oh, and virginia when t5dr first came out. if i was in md now, i would probably be up in philly trying to play demon hyo a lot, and playing steve in tvc
jimmy1200srk: im in the town of evo. so when im not drunk, hitting on australian women, and riding in limos for free with a random bacholorette party, i play games. lol. yes, the limo thing happened thursday. long story, but good shit.
moroha: Haha, good shit man
moroha: Went to Philly this past week for some BB and SF4. UP is pretty tight.
jimmy1200srk: whats “up”?
moroha: University Pinball
moroha: Philly arcade with both SF4 and Blazblue
jimmy1200srk: oooh. i think theyre getting tvc too. nice. i told my boy james like a month after i moved out, that yo, im mad i never drove up north for anything, games, road trip, drink trip, etc… i got to downtown philly in like an hour when i went up for bar hopping. i was like, wtf, i could have been travelling for comp. got damnit! does anyone in md play king of fighters seriously?
jimmy1200srk: i should have been hitting philly and new york. oh well, another day. i like downtown philly though, its nice
moroha: Steve H and Eddie Lopez play KoF for real I think, that’s about it.
jimmy1200srk: i wonder why the u.s doesnt really have a kof scene
moroha: Eh, I mean, I think again it’s a case of visuals/design. KoF games for sure are fun, Adelheid is big fun in 11, but when set against familiar franchises like SF3 and the wild design and pace of Guilty Gear, it’s tough to compete.
jimmy1200srk: yeah, they just changed their character design for kofxii
jimmy1200srk: old sprites for the win
jimmy1200srk: they had them 92’ throwback, fish cake sprites for like a decade. ha ha
moroha: haha, yeah
moroha: I’m sure it will see some success amongst the hardcore crowd
moroha: But it will never be a mainstream hit, I don’t think
moroha: here, anyway
moroha: Relegated to those 25-35 man tournaments at evo, you know
moroha: I sure hope Guilty Gear returns at Evo. I imagine it’s a longshot but still a possibility.
moroha: You figure they’ll give a slot to Blazblue, but that won’t be out on console until Evo 2010.
moroha: I don’t know how much life Guilty Gear has left in it but its renewal again at SBO breathed new life into the arcade scene in Japan from what I heard. ABA is quite possibly the coolest character design in any fighting game, her style is just so out there and unique. Extremely high risk high reward, massive damage, insane RTSD.
jimmy1200srk: yeah, well i hope the newness will attract more players to play. yeah, they give slots to mario kart, but not guilty gear or kof
jimmy1200srk: what the fuck is a mario kart
moroha: So we’ll hope and pray there’s GG as a main game at Evo!
moroha: lol yeah man
moroha: fuck that shit
moroha: I’m sure you knew about the whole Guilty Gear and Evo debacle two years ago
jimmy1200srk: eh, not really
moroha: Long story short there weren’t many people watching the finals even when we had an American team beating a Japanese team
moroha: so it got dropped, and this past year, the Guilty Gear “side” tournament was bigger than some of the actual main tournaments
moroha: I think that really helped staff realize that Guilty Gear does have a dedicated fanbase
jimmy1200srk: gay. see, thats kinda why im doing this. get this info out, and get more support. beating the japanese has always been something we get wild over, and people were just not paying attention. wow. i hope to see it this year for real. how do you feel about online gaming, and online gamers.
moroha: The online community is definitely a blessing and a curse. It expands the player base and lets us play against people from coast to coast, but on the other hand one of the things that makes fighting games so unique as a genre and community is the personal, social aspect of it, and it kind of gets diluted much like FPS RTS MMO etc when you take that face to face competition away.
moroha: I don’t know how much more tournament players we will see that move on from online play, but I think SF4 will be a great barometer.
jimmy1200srk: word. most def. i feel the same way about online. the gift and the curse. do you play stick or pad
moroha: Stick forever.
moroha: Gotta hit those buttons
jimmy1200srk: good shit. did you find it hard executing moves on a stick at first. like qcfx2, iad cancels, etc… and if so, what did you do to make all that easier for you
moroha: I found reverse SRK (421) tough at first, which was important since ABA’s SRK, Danzai, is a very potent weapon to have instantly on command, as if you read a throw attempt correctly, it’s unthrowable and you get a painful combo off of it. Her Tiger Kneed Konzetsu (Orbs) FRC (41236S), a good pressure tool, was also very difficult, since you need to do it very low to the ground and then you have two frames cancel it, or else it gets punished hard.
moroha: The TK Orbs FRC is something I try to do whenever I can in casuals, so that when I want to drop it in tournament it will come more naturally.
moroha: Training mode obviously helps. But in the case of Guilty Gear, and specifically the FRCs, it’s one thing to know the cancel point in training mode, and a completely different thing to hit it in tournament. So going for FRCs in casuals, whether you need it or not, is the best way to learn FRC points, and I’ve pretty much extended that to my combos and difficult inputs in any game. Get the gist in training, then iron it out in casuals whenever you can.
moroha: (The input for the TK Konzetsu FRC is 412369S, cancel, 66. Got it wrong up there)
jimmy1200srk: word. hokuto no ken really asked more of me from my stick skills, and i have given it. i love that game, its pretty technical and demanding of excellent execution. didnt take me long to adapt though.
jimmy1200srk: practice practice practice. watch youtube videos from ko, and see how he does it, and copy is what i tell the stick noobs
moroha: Haha. I used to play a lot of HnK; Eddie Lopez, a MD regular, actually bought the Atomiswave and cart
jimmy1200srk: where did the usage of numbers instead of letters come from? like 236 instead of qcf
moroha: So I got a jump on it when it came out
moroha: The numbers are directly translated from the keyboard number pad
moroha: Calibur and Guilty Gear use them, I don’t know who started that trend.
jimmy1200srk: word. at first, it frustrated me, and then when i realized im not retarded or lazy, i figured out what they mean, and i can dig it.
jimmy1200srk: do you have any personal accomplishments you would like to speak on?
jimmy1200srk: something people might not know about
moroha: Yeah. I’m the reigning Seasons Beatings Hokuto No Ken champion.
jimmy1200srk: really. who did you play with
moroha: I used Juda and wrecked the field
jimmy1200srk: argh…i play ken now, just because i fucks with him. ishi’s ken is nice. fuck youtube for suspending tianyuans account. it had everything hnk on it. got damnit!!! ill probably learn toki, and rei also. i do like juda though. i hope they make a part 2. i really liked that game, and love it now that i have it. im late
moroha: Haha. The game was fun, but it will probably never see a big resurgence. I hope for a sequel, but it might be fated for the same future as Basara X.
jimmy1200srk: argh. wait all this time for it. it drops, its a hit in japan, and then never comes back. that would make me sad. well that about wraps it up for now. if there is anything i missed, ill contact you again, but i think we touched on a lot, and is an excellent contribution to the scene. do you have any parting words for everyone who will read this?
moroha: Don’t sleep on MD in SF4 and especially BB. We’ll be playing that shit every week. All fanmail to the best ABA in America, and any requests for my autographed 8x10 portrait should be directed to email@example.com.
jimmy1200srk: ha ha ha. any request above 8x10 will be 40 a pop. maryland, we destroy you in games, and get money off our pics. biatch! thanks man. appreciate your time. until later. peace
moroha: Yep, peace.
moroha: Btw, what/who are these interviews being done for?
jimmy1200srk: http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=172921 thats a link to my thread describing why i wanted to do this if your interested. theyre being done for the community as a whole, and also for my md players who i want people to know about how we shine in the state of md.
moroha: Cool. Was good talking to you, hit me up if you’re ever going to be around MD and want to play some games.
moroha: I’ll do the same if I’m ever in vegas.
jimmy1200srk: no doubt
X1ggurat-me and x1 discuss the maryland get down, and we discuss the NEW BLAZE BLUE MACHINE that they will be getting at his store, power gamer. good stuff here
X1ggurat: Hey man
X1ggurat: I actually havent seen your thread
X1ggurat: Where is it?
jimmy1200srk: whatsup. so i dont know if you have some free time, but i have put together a little script for my interview with m.d players, and i was seein if you wanted to be one of the first. the thread is in the atlantic north. no replies except me.
jimmy1200srk: i have not started an official interview thread yet though
X1ggurat: Ah, lemme see
jimmy1200srk: waiting to compile the interviews up, and then ill be dropping those interview threads
jimmy1200srk: still there
jimmy1200srk: okay cool. you have some free time
X1ggurat: Yeah, I got some time
jimmy1200srk: okay, lets get started. what was your first fighting game that you started playing
X1ggurat: That would be Street Fighter 2: World Warrior. I played it first at a bowling alley, I believe.
jimmy1200srk: nice. my first with that game was at a corner shop in severn. i was a part of that era of, dont keep spamming dhalsim’s kicks, or ill kick you in the face, stage of gaming. but it works son! i might have played art of fighting first though. not sure. was there a little scene there for that game?
X1ggurat: You know, there very well may have been, but I was about 7 or 8 at the time. Fighting games was really one of the first types of games I had played, and back then, I couldn’t have possibly had a notion of the scene. I just wanted to pick a giant wrestler and suplex a man.
jimmy1200srk: i understand. all i knew was a lot of people played it. thats about it. so what was the game that made you wanna play seriously, why, and when?
jimmy1200srk: funny you bring up the age thing too. i couldnt have been that old, and grown ass men were mad at me because i was spamming moves. ha
X1ggurat: Yeah, I would have dudes at the OC arcades switching games to avoid me, but I didnt want to fight the computer. So I would just follow them.
X1ggurat: I have no idea if what I was doing back then. i was good for a 8 year old, hah.
jimmy1200srk: word up, so what was your first game you took seriously?
X1ggurat: At any rate, I took a long break from fighting games for a while since I had no one to play. Online gaming wasn’t advanced enough, and arcades had since died. So around the 11th grade or so, I picked up CVS2 and GGX for the PS2. It was around this time I had discovered gamecombos.com.
X1ggurat: Im not sure how or why I discovered gamecombos before shoryuken.
X1ggurat: But around then, I heard word of GG tournaments up in Hagerstown, being held by Tomass and C-God.
X1ggurat: So it was basically decided then that I had to buy GGXX, and start practicing.
jimmy1200srk: nice. well i remember me and my friends always playing each other a lot, and we knew how things were suppose to combo, but nothing advanced. we were playing tekken 3 pretty serious, trying to follow in the footsteps of the guys that played a annapolis mall, and we played the alpha series a lot. i wouldnt say i really sat down and tried hard, and found websites for info until tekken 5, but i was not new to the competition surrounding fighting games, or how they worked
jimmy1200srk: sorry if i have any delays by the way. double timing with another interview. now do you still play cvs2 and gg competitively
X1ggurat: I still play GG competitively. CVS2 though, hell no.
X1ggurat: A guy I used to work with, (Skisonic on SRK) came over one day and showed me what CVS2 was all about, haha.
jimmy1200srk: ha ha. any reason you dropped cvs2? i know some people have just gotten bored of it
X1ggurat: CVS2 is definitly…an interesting game. I had no problems with A-ism combos or roll canceling or anything, but the strength of normals in that game were/are absolutely nuts.
X1ggurat: And back then, I didnt even know about roll-canceling
X1ggurat: It just felt off to me, coming from say, Super Turbo.
jimmy1200srk: were you doing roll canceling before it was a thing, or are you saying that, that was how you were rolling in the game, before people started doing roll canceling? yes, super turbo to cvs2 is quite the odd transition. i wanna touch on st and gg also, but back to the roll canceling
X1ggurat: No, I didnt know anything about roll canceling back then. I didnt even roll, I think I played K or P groove back then. What I mean is that in a game full of funny glitches/strats/combos, the thing that deterred me from playing the game was actually the normals, and crazy hit boxes.
X1ggurat: It affected the base gameplay in a way I just couldnt get into
jimmy1200srk: oooooh, i got ya. i can dig. ill take your word for it. i dont know cvs2 really. i owned it for dreamcast, and thats about it. the only thing i remember about cvs2 was me getting my ass kicked by rugal, and i was like, wtf is this shit. now do you still play gg seriously?
X1ggurat: Yeah, I still play GG seriously. The east coast GG scene is still particularly large.
jimmy1200srk: yeah, im talking to someone now about it, and we are discussing gg. he is also saying the same thing. i recently got accent core. is this the preferred title of the series, or are older titles still preffered over accent core?
X1ggurat: AC is largely the preferred title in the series, and is the tournament standard. I’m sure everyone has their likes and dislikes regarding each version of GG though.
jimmy1200srk: yes definitely. has guilty gear been at evo yet? i kinda only paid attention to tekken for a while. im not sure if i recall seeing guilty gear.
jimmy1200srk: have you entered gg tournaments?
X1ggurat: Yes to both questions. Though I dont know if GG will be showing up at EVO any time soon.
jimmy1200srk: before i go into the tournaments, why do you think gg has not been at evo, even though its popularity cannot be denied? oh wait, i think it was at evo 2k7, but regardless, well many were playing, and it was always at sbo, we didnt add it to our roster for one of our biggest yearly tournaments. your thoughts
X1ggurat: Well, GG ran into some issues at Evo last year. The long and short of it is that no one was actually watching the finals, among other things, and it basically looked like a failure.
X1ggurat: I don’t entirely disagree that GG shouldn’t be at EVO this year; I think it serves a good lesson to the community, as much as I like GG.
X1ggurat: But the fighting game community has never been known for exemplary behavior.
jimmy1200srk: oooooh, well maybe things might change this year if they add it. just to jump off for a second. i want to talk to you about blaze blue, and the move your store is taking. i currently live in las vegas, but i lived in md up until last september, and i would go to powergamer for all my gaming needs, especially imports, and actually worked at the verizon store right outside the mall. so anyways, what made your owner want to make this move to getting a blaze blue cabinet in his store
jimmy1200srk: yes, we will discuss behavior in the community soon. it is a topic i want to touch mos def
X1ggurat: Oh really, hah. I’m sure we’ve seen each other at some point, then.
X1ggurat: Basically, the owner’s son was looking to put an arcade cabinet inside the store.
jimmy1200srk: oh, okay. real basic. for financial purposes, or just because?
X1ggurat: The entire family has a great business sense, but I don’t think they really knew anything about the fighting game community. They originally figured it would not only draw in it’s own money, but naturally bring people to the store. Free advertising.
X1ggurat: They were interested in bringing SF4 to the store at first, but backed out after realizing that SF4 would hit console so soon.
X1ggurat: So I made the suggestion of Blazblue.
X1ggurat: After all, BB wont be out for a year at least
X1ggurat: And it’s essentially targetted towards the GG crowd
X1ggurat: With the closest BB otherwise being 2 hours away for the MD/VA crew, I think its a good move
jimmy1200srk: yeah, understandable. well i was talking to my friend about it, and i was like, even for people that dont play the game, go support the fact that this store is importing in this cab for us to play, and help try to make this go more places. because i thought i read something about if it does good, they might consider renting out a spot in the mall, and dropping some cabs in there
jimmy1200srk: learn to play it if you dont know how. support support support
X1ggurat: Oh yeah, certainly.
X1ggurat: As you know, the Glen Burnie mall isnt much of a mall, hah.
X1ggurat: But its pretty central, and close to UMBC
jimmy1200srk: oh okay. no, it should be called glen burnie, desert, only go there for powergamer and dicks, mall
jimmy1200srk: shits dead. it happens though.
X1ggurat: I think it would be a reasonable place for an arcade, but running an arcade has gotta be tricky. I’m pretty sure Power Gamer will make its money back or more with Blazblue, but an arcade is a different beast.
jimmy1200srk: yeah. really, if they dropped blaze blue, and tekken6br, they would get a nice chunk of players. md is deep in tekken, if people dont know. if i was there, i would def come support.
jimmy1200srk: any thoughts of tk6br possibly?
X1ggurat: Its definitely possible, pending on the arcade decision. And I know Tekken would draw a lot of casual players too.
jimmy1200srk: ooooh yeah. some of the og’s would come out for that, and all the tekken players i know, and some. people would come from out of state for that. tekken is a pretty huge game in usa in general, and worldwide. i do like the thought of blaze blue being there though. we gotta keep it rolling with the new. now, is this going to be a japanese cab with one player on one side, and another on the other, or will they be sitting right next to each other?
X1ggurat: It’ll be a side by side vewlix, which is the high-def widescreen cab, I believe. There isnt enough room in Power Gamer to hold the back to back cabs, and even now I’m still concerned about particularly large turnouts.
jimmy1200srk: yeah, i have been there, so i dont know why i thought about that. unless you just got rid of all the racks in the front, and smashed a hole in the wall. BAM, SPACE BITCHES
X1ggurat: I can tell you that some space is being cleared, but without any smashing necessary. Sorry, Jimmy.
jimmy1200srk: i want smashing. now, in your personal opinion, and be honest, how do you think the scene is doing now, where do you think it will be going, considering all these new games coming out, and what do you think is holding it back
X1ggurat: I am more than happy to be honest. I think at the moment, the scene is healthier than it has been in some time, and will continue to get healthier with the release of these new games.
X1ggurat: However, I feel that the fighting game scene has created and exists in a sort of vacuum.
X1ggurat: Many fighting gamers are either socially inept or extremely ego-centric, in my experience, and basically, are tools and assholes.
X1ggurat: It’s our duty as a community to expand the scene, but it doesn’t seem like we can even get along as is, let alone invite other people into the scene without belittling or ignoring them.