Walkup 720s

I recently switching from pad to arcade stick, and I’m having a tough time pulling off walk-up 720s (for Zangief and Hakan ultras). I can do it jumping in or cancelling from another move, but never just from the normal standing position?

Any tips? Is it possible without jumping?

Since you didn’t state what game I’m going to ASSUME ssf4?

http://shoryuken.com/f266/zangiefs-combos-166501/index14.html#post9150384

fyi walking 720 above is meaning (normal) > buffer [:ub::l::hcf:] keep holding :r: and you can walk a little :hcb::ub: