-- Weightlifting & Nutrition Thread -- v9.0 Optimized


I, myself, am a SCRAWNY guy…like REAL skinny and I’ve always been too embarrassed to go to the gym since I am kind of weak too…
So, What am I supposed to do…? To start off?
I’ve read some of it, and I am not 100% sure which one is right for me?

Oh…and would it be GAY if people start posting pics of how they look NOW? like a Before & After thing… -_-
So gay =P


Ok, hope you guys can help me out here.

I can stand to lose a few pounds, and just tone up in general. I don’t have access to a gym at my apt complex, nor do I want to spend $150 + $30/month to join a gym in my neighborhood, but I do have a good set of adjustable dumbells. Any help here, or am I just much better off going and spending the money to join Bally’s or 24hour?


Same here. I finally just bit the bullet and went though. You should too. Everybody has to start somewhere. All the buff guys you see in there used to either look like you, or were fat. Besides, I think in most cases you’ll find that you’re not the only scrawny one in there.

HeaT: 10 YEARS?? Wow. Toby McGuire went from basically where I am to the way he is in Spiderman in 5 months. I don’t have the time to spend on it like he did, nor the professional trainers and nutritionists to help me… so I imagine I could achieve what he did in a year to a year and a half. Maybe those pics I posted were a bit too much heh. My target weight is 160-170… how much do you suppose those guys weighed?


Brad Pitt can’t be more than 170lbs (Fight Club days). And McGuire can’t be more than 150.

Norton in AHX was wayyyyyyyy bigger than any of them. No idea why he got so small again.


Yeah, from what I’ve read Pitt was 160ish during Fight Club. How much do you think these guys weigh? 1 2


Maaco can’t fix THAT kind of blow-out. :lol:


Depends on how tall he is. He looks around 175lbs. If he’s taller, then he’d weigh more.


i was recommended to go to http://www.wannabebigforums.com, but haven’t checked much of it out.

i did find a little motivational article taken from T-mag.com:


look at the homegrown link its made for people who either workout at home or a gym they have exercise you can do with dumbells or like me i only have a barbell with enough weight to be a challege so for every exercise theres 2 or 3 ways to do it depending on what you have


Before you start any weight plan, you should probably spend a couple of weeks jogging or doing other sorts of cardio, and using some really light weights and doing a lot of repetitions. That way you will build your endurance, something you’ll need if you are to actually go for heavy weights and no more than 90 seconds rest between sets (the general recommendation). Also, using light weights to start off will let you get used to doing the proper motion. If you start off right away with tough stuff, and you end up doing it wrong, you’re not beneffiting as much. Quality over quantity. It’s better to use weight you can have good form with and do correctly, than to use a large amount of weight for an ego boost or bragging rights.

edit: not saying you don’t want to challenge yourself. Definately push it to the limit, just know what that limit is.


I just calculated my nutritional intake for the day, and here are the results:

cheese - 70
5g fat
2g carb
4g protein

eggs - 70 x 2
4g fat
1g carb
6g protein

juice - 110 x 2
26g carb
2g protein

bacon - 35 x 4
2.5g fat
2g protein

tuna - 60 x 2.5
1g fat
13g protein

mayonaise - 100 x 2
11g fat

bread - 60 x 8
.5g fat
12g carb
3g protein

pot pie - 400
23g fat
37g carb
10g protein

jelly - 50 x 2
13g carb

peanut butter - 190 x 2
16g fat
7g carb
8g protein

milk - 130
5g fat
12g carb
8g protein

-fat- 41%

-carb- 39.5%

-protein- 19.5%

-total calories-

Well, I’m meeting the caloric formula of “current weight * 18” in order to gain, but I’m getting the calories from the wrong area it seems. I had no idea I consumed that much fat. That frozen pot pie was unhealthy, as is my regular mayo. I should buy nonfat kind.


okay, most of the sources out there preach that to cut-up, your body must use up (external activity and internal functions combined) more calories than one consumes in a given day. i assume that the human body is smart enough to know when it’s getting less energy than it’s using.

what exactly does this mean? besides cutting up (by either fat or muscle shrinkage)…will you be feeling hungry all the time? (body’s way of saying it needs more energy), feel fatigued, etc.?


^ I’m not sure. I don’t think that’s accurate. In order to be cut, I believe you have to have a combination of muscle, and low body fat. I don’t believe you would have to burn more calories than you intake daily… like you said, I don’t think that would be good. You should probably be burning off most/all of your fat calories though, however that works. Cardio, and lots of it basically.

Don’t quote me on this, I don’t know the magic to getting cut yet. :wink: It shouldn’t be hard for me though, my metabolism is like an unstoppable freight train. I just need to get the muscle.

Question. I read from several sources that 55:30:15 is the ratio of carbs:fat:protein that you should strive for… but that getbig site says that’s the ratio of carbs:protein:fat. Is consuming as little as 15% fat healthy? Not to mention how hard that would be to consume that little fat.


Unfortunately, it isn’t. The body has weird mechanisms that you have to overcome. For example, dropping your cholesterol intake sharply, your body will start producing cholesterol on its own and you end up with higher cholesterol than when you started dieting.

The immediate effect of burning up calories than you eat will result in several things, among which you already mentioned. You feel more tired easily, you feel hunger more easily, etc. Of course, in losing weight you also put less stress in your heart and muscles, so long term effect would feeling less tired and less hungry.


If I remember correctly, the formula to losing weight would be to cut down 1000 calories (daily) from whatever diet you should be following based on your body mass index. This would result in approximately pound loss per week, given normal activities. The loss of 1000 calories also limits the resulting “binge” eating that results from dieters feeling hunger all the time.

For each 9.3 calories of excess enermgy entering the body, 1 gram of fat is stored.

55:30:15 Carb:protein:fat is approximately correct, at least for normal activity (“Dietary Guidelines for Americans”, US Deparment of Agriculture and Deparment of Health and Human Services). You are correct, however, in saying that different sources argue (the second book I picked up listed 45:14:45, which means 45% comes from fat).

Sorry, don’t have data for those in an body building regimen. In any case 15% fat is next to impossible to achieve unless you prepare all your food yourself. As for 15% fat being healthy, sure it is. The body has ways to compensate… and I actually have to look for a case where a person suffered a condition from lacking eating fat (will get back on it).


every time you cut you lose some muscle but if you exercise and eat right you lose less muscle and more fat, and no you won’t feel hungry if you’re eating as planned because you can always have a healthy snack i’m partial to jerky myself, really you’re eating more,because you have more then the usual 3 meals a day


If you lose muscle when you cut, should I be doing this “Brad Pitt routine?” Cuz I don’t have much muscle to begin with, I’m 130lbs. I have next to no fat as well, but still… Cuz at 20-30 reps a set (which I can’t even do that many yet), I would assume the main goal of this workout is to cut up.

Should I be doing heavier weights and less reps until I gain some weight/muscle, THEN switch to this type of workout? It’s all so complicated. :sad:


No. Generally speaking, you should keep the same rep and set scheme ALL the time. Doesn’t matter if you’re cutting or bulking. You should be using heavy weight and less than 10 reps all the time. More reps than that is for endurance training. Low reps build strength and mass.

The only difference between cutting and bulking is diet and cardio, the training should be the same.


at 130 you should be bulking but still make sure you watch what you eat because that and exercise is the different between gaining more muscle or gaining more fat


I remember there were some tips in one of the old threads about how to go about problems working out the chest. I haven’t made much progress lately.


Then you should change your routine a little bit. Incline DB presses are by far the best exercise there is for chest.

Or you could change your rep scheme. If you do 6-8 reps, you might want to aim for 10. You’ll definately feel a difference.