Which feels more like a CRT: HDTV or Monitor?


#1

I’ve been playing COD4 on a 32" CRT for two years and done pretty well. I recently switched to a 46" LCD and started sucking, lol. I know this is subjective, but I can honestly say that the TV makes a difference. On the other hand, the LCD is much better for SFIV. (By the way the CRT is a “flat-screen”–not panel–Sony Trinitron; in other words, it’s not one of the one’s where the screen bulges outward)

The reason the LCD gives me trouble with COD4 is because the movements feel much more sensitive and fluid. This sounds like a good thing, and it probably is, but I can’t seem to get used to it. On top of that, the colors are a lot sharper and brighter. Again, this is “good” in theory, but it just doesn’t work for me.

Now I’ve decided to buy a smaller display since I think that size has a lot to do with it as well (The 46" is my family’s so I’m not losing money). I just want to know if there is any “general” difference between an HDTV and a digital monitor, regardless of cables/connections.


#2

Cod4 is FPS and you just changed both the resolution and screen size you need to give it some time to get used to it.

Now as far as LCD monitors go you need to do some research on review sites and hardware forums to find good model (basically there’s 1 or 2 good ones for every 50 shitty models :slight_smile: ). The reason why you need to this is to find one with below 16ms input lag (so 1 frame) instead of the slower ones which can even go into 3-4 frame delays (not counting mouse/gamepad lag and console/computer introduced input lag)


#3

How far away from the screen do you sit when playing COD on the CRT vs. the LCD? I find that I like to sit really damn close to the screen when playing TF2 and L4D.


#4

Yeah, that’s going to be a BIG difference for you if you’ve been playing regularly for a long time. You changed the screen size (as far as pixels go and what’s shown on screen) AND the shape. You’ll need to adjust.

As far as a general difference between HDTV’s and monitors: No. The ONLY technical difference that separates a a monitor with HD resolution and an HDTV is that the HDTV has a television tuner. That is all. The panel can be the exact same along with everything else.

If you’re looking for something close to a CRT and just using it for TV and videogames, try looking at some plasmas. They’re generally cheaper than LCD and have that much more natural look and deeper black like CRTs, especially for games like COD and basically anything else where the graphics are supposed to be realistic. (As opposed to SF4, Blazblue, etc). They also excel at motion like CRTs. The respsonse time Zlejedi mentioned isn’t even an issue.

I have one and I love it. LCDs make better computer monitors, but in general, most brand name plasmas are rated as the better display technology. Everyone’s taste is different though, and if you can pull it off, try looking at something in someone’s house. It looks completely different than in a store. It’s not even close.


#5

Wrong. HDTVs also have post-processing on most, and often all, of their inputs. That’s the main cause of input lag. Monitors don’t have that.


#6

Yeah I figured that it’s just adjusting. As for input lag, I’m already aware of this and have found some that don’t have it.

Haha this is so true. I try to recreate the setting with my HDTV, but it’s never going to be the same.

Thanks for that detailed and helpful response. I’ll definitely look into it.

You’re right, but that doesn’t mean that all monitors don’t have input lag.


#7

i love cod4/waw on my lcd so much more than i did crt… but there was definitely a learning curve.


#8

True enough. My post was a little ambiguous I admit.


#9

It’s good to hear that I’m not the only one and that it’s probably normal. BTW nice URL choice for your site, lol.

No worries, heh.


#10

VPT: I meant that as a possible reason you find yourself doing better on the CRT instead of the LCD. :slight_smile:


#11

i got a question about lcds

would this monitor be good for games or have input lag?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052

also can you hookup a cable box via hdmi to a pc monitor and watch tv…or do you need a tv tuner?


#12

Lots of HDTVs have “Game” modes, which disables post processing, delivering a more immediate image. Manufacturers put this in for people who require fast responses from their screens. Although even then, it’ll only be as good as a regular PC monitor LCD. And then it’s still going to be slower than a CRT. I love my 29" Trinitron because it’s the same size as a Sega cabinets monitor.


#13

haha thanks


#14

Not every HDTV does that, and just like you said, not on every input. And again, not every one does is badly and will result in noticeable lag. What will distinguish what’s referred to as a monitor and an HDTV as far as purchasing goes will be the inclusion of lack of a tuner.


#15

Yeah, that will work with a cable box and hdmi as long as the monitor supports HDCP, which pretty much everything does now. The cable box IS your tuner. You’ll just need to set up your sound somehow.

As far as the monitor goes, looks like a good deal. All I can say is read the reviews, and if you’re going to buy it sight unseen, DON’T compare written specs with other monitors. It’s pretty much useless unless they’re within the same brand.


#16

Thanks to everybody else who posted some helpful stuff.


#17

if you are looking at the asus’s - you may want to consider:

it’s 2ms and it supports hdcp w/hdmi/vga/dvi inputs - for 20.00 more you can’t go wrong. fantastic monitor.